ITG and Andamiro.

[Tomo_kun]

I am being serious in this topic. I am, in no way being negative to ITG, DDR or Pump.

Konami sued andamiro for design rights over the arcade machine. IIRC, andamiro has to pay royalties to Konami now. With ITG, will Andamiro still pay royalties per machine, or will they have annother suit?
_________________

Cutriss wrote:

FLCL, God of Gods wrote: Uh... so when do we get the porn forum? If you can't find porn on the Internet, you're not trying.

[Yasser]

ok....so Konami will sue ITG for their own pads, but theyre fine with them stealing DDR pads for the first mix's use
_________________

Go see Pulp Fiction. Now.

[Tomo_kun]

[ICNH]

I'm just wondering if Konami will file a lawsuit against Roxor Games, using their cabinet, almost identical gameplay, etc. But maybe if Konami is done with DDR, they won't care. So if they don't file anything, we pretty much know DDR is dead.
_________________

Who posts here anymore?

DDRecall. | Groovestats. Challenges? | YouTube Vids.

[diddrstrait]

the thing is the only cabinets that are supposed to even be here are america ones (DDR US 1st mix and DDR USA). that's it. All of the Korean and Japanese machines aren't supposed to be seen outside of their respective countries. I don't think konami really CAN sue as long as the upgrades are going into japanese and korean machines (which probably make up 90% of the machines in the US anyway). Konami isn't making any money on the sale of DDR cabinets in america since they aren't SELLING DDR cabinets here, so I don't think they can sue roxor since they aren't losing any money on the machines either.

[[DMB]dman.exe]

Roxor legally owns the machimes they have ITG installed on, right? What can possibly be illegal about using a machine you have legal rights to own to play whatever? Konami can't sue because Roxor made the software, but now that they're going to start selling upgrade kits (that could potientally...? I don't know the specs needed to install ITG) go into a DDR USA cabinet, Konami could find a loophole somewhere to sue Roxor.
_________________

hi

[VxJasonxV]

[nekura]

[Rancidfish]

I think the thing to consider is JAMMA conventions and whatnot. The arcade manager owns the cabinet, and the cabinet must follow certain conventions of compatibility. It's totally legal for an arcade owner to upgrade an Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 machine to a Tekken Tag machine. The button layout would come out kind of funny if they didn't make some changes (which they are legally entitled to do, btw), but it's still legal for them to do so. And it's not like Midway is going to sue Namco for using their intellectual property.

Similarly, the DDR machines are Konami's intellectual property. However, this only means that Roxor (and Andamiro) aren't allowed to make machines like that. Arcade owners are allowed to do whatever they want with those machines, and thus it doesn't matter if they leave them DDR EX, install ItG, or install Tekken 4. Konami isn't going to sue Roxor or Namco.

However, the time that Roxor and Andamiro are going to have some problems getting sued is now that they're actually making cabinets. The arrow layout is the same, so the cabinet must be significantly different in other respects (sensor design, bar design, lights and speakers) to avoid suit. Which I believe they have gone through with.[/i]
_________________

Check out my bad PA!
"They call me... Brother Mojo."

A newbie's guide to ITG. If you like dance games, check it out!

[diddrstrait]

[Tomo_kun]

Might I remind you that I said nothing about the JAMMA conversion kits? Im more worried about Andamiro.
_________________

Cutriss wrote:

FLCL, God of Gods wrote: Uh... so when do we get the porn forum? If you can't find porn on the Internet, you're not trying.

[diddrstrait]

[Flarone]

I thought that the lawsuit between Konami and Andimiro was lost by Konami to Andimiro, resulting in the fact that we only have one US release.
_________________

[Tomo_kun]

[Catastrophe]

[LittleMike LOL]

What exactly is Andamiro anyway?

And this has been beaten to death a long time ago. I personally think that if RoXoR gets sued, then that's their personal issue, not ours. All we should care about is whether we have a game to play or not. We're not the ones making profit off of a product so we shouldn't have to worry about money issues. Would you want someone else to know your credit and bank account information? Of course not! They're not going to pay your bills and we're not going to pay RoXoR's bills so leave their financial matters alone.

Note that no member of RoXoR has posted yet. I guess that this is because they are sick of seeing the same topic repeatedly over on their forums (on roxorgames, not itgfreak).

[VxJasonxV]

[UNJUSTMODSHIP]

Aren't hotdogs just plain magical? If you think so, then go munch on a unicef burger! I like things that taste like morons smashing po cans on their heads. I once cried to my mommy because someone through a rubber duck named bob charlie at me. Paperclip! Little kids wearing mittens are everywhere. My name is judy bl00m. My cousin's name is "Pump it up, dog!" because he eats triangular soup! Double cheese hamburger deal! University Prof! Bunnylock@ I like wheels because I once got bitten by one. Kittykats are kool! I want to listen to Kyle Ward's Music because it sounds like bricks! goaty goaty goo goo, I am a toddler! hahahaha I like being unfunny because I know that every body loves my unfunniness. Elephants taste like glue! YUCK-ZORZ! I am a little skoolgurl who plays socker! I like Doby from Harry Potter because he reminds me of Yoda! Green is a cool color. I like burning my house because when it's done burning, it tastes crispy! yum, i like the taste of wood. Longie-dongie-doo! i am a little immature kid and I'm proving it in this thread. UNICEF, UNICEF, UNICEF! (Their burgers taste like laughter). Once there was this place called ddrfreak and I didn't get accepted. They said "YOU'RE TOO DAMN ANNOYING, COLD ROCK A PARTY!" and kicked me in the face when I auditioned. I like writing long threads which nobody will read. I bet they didn't even read that sentence. HOT TUB! Chubblocks taste like sensormatic doors! PICKLES TASTE LIKE MY DOG'S REAR END, HORSE SPERM, AND DONKEY BUTTOCKS! your mom is cool! Brickton! Bricktoid! I want, I think, I have polly shore. Sweaty betty!, I'm going to shake my burgerbutt, because I have an interview with the COLD ROCK A PARTY PEOPLE (DDRFREAK) tonight due to me being annoying. They're going to throw bricks at me and all the grade 9s from last year will laugh as they attempt to throw pocketknives at my head. I like long, fruity, bunnygirl, musicals! I like fast cars because they have wheels which bit me and that is why I like wheels, cars, tar and goats. Kangaroo tastes very good. Bunnylock, I'm DRUNK! bunny bunny, armtwister, SNISTER!, I wonder if you're still reading this??? If not, then that is cool because this post is so fricken stupid that it doesn't deserve to be read! Oh well, HOCKEY PUCK! I like to reed books because they're smokey the bear! ddrfreak emailed me just so they could "COLD ROCK A PARTY" in my dog, then they whailed waterballoons at my face, After that I learned how to abuse commas and got an E-Mail which said "COLD ROCK A PARTY" from ddrfarts. It also said "ROCK A PARTY...ROCK A PARTY...ROCK A PARTY"so I spammed them and then I went back to the lock store for a second audition and they just said "OH, are you that annoying guy??? if so, COLD ROCK A PARTY!" so I kicked myself in the face and said BOO HOO HOO bunnyhouses taste like rice, tar, and jungles!

[El Band Geek]

let's see..... :rolls dice:: .....3 for bumping year old thread?

EDIT: make that perma-ban after I actually read the post

EDIT AGAIN: ::reads guy's profile:: Thank you mods, always one step ahead
_________________

The Freak is Dead. Long Live The Freak