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Kaku
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20.  Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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**** = an AAA
Both mean 100% of maximum possible DP. Excellents overlap the great window so it means any of your excellents could have potentially been greats, therefore you aren't sure if you actually AAA'd it by DDR timing standards.
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noles602
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| 21. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| well if you **** a song doesnt that mean that you could technically AAAA a course in DDR? |
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Emptyeye
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| 22. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Not necessarily, for the same reason that AAA != FEC (Everyone talks about how ITG's Fantastic window is smaller than DDR's Perfect window, neglecting the more correct comparison that it's BIGGER than DDR's MARVELOUS window).
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Boochypa
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| 23. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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That comparison is worthless because the marvelous window isn't active outside of courses, because that somehow makes sense just like everything else in DDR.
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Ian2K3
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| 24. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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ok heres one way to find out does anyone know the EXACT timing window for each step value? then by comparing we could see the difference of grades
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Kaku
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| 25. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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If only Konami made Marvelouses in normal games DDR SN would be sooo much better. Kind of like IIDX where no one ever 100%'s a song (except on extremely rare occasions).
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Boochypa
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| 26. Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Marvelous is 16.7 ms.
Fantastic is 21.5.
Perfect is 33.3.
Excellent is 43.
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Ian2K3
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| 27. Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Boochypa wrote: | Marvelous is 16.7 ms.
Fantastic is 21.5.
Perfect is 33.3.
Excellent is 43. |
ok so its about halfway in between but i mean its not like on itg if you get say, 10 excellents on a song, you are going to get 6 greats if the song was on ddr.
btw what about the rest of the steps great way off ect...
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Boochypa
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| 28. Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Ian2K3 wrote: | ok so its about halfway in between but i mean its not like on itg if you get say, 10 excellents on a song, you are going to get 6 greats if the song was on ddr.
btw what about the rest of the steps great way off ect... |
If you get 10 excellents on a song I think it's safe to assume that none of them would have been greats on DDR.
Do the rest of the judgments matter? I don't know them off the top of my head.
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typobox
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| 29. Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Great is 102 ms, Decent is 135 ms, and Way Off is 180 ms. (You have to earn those Misses.)
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Spectere
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| 30. Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| A **** isn't a AAA, neither is a ***. The rating systems are not even close to compatible. DDR and ITG are two seperate games, stop trying to compare the grades in them. :/ |
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Blue0ctane
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| 31. Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, Spectere, a quad-star would be an AAA in DDR...
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| 33. Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Spectere wrote: | | A **** isn't a AAA, neither is a ***. The rating systems are not even close to compatible. DDR and ITG are two seperate games, stop trying to compare the grades in them. :/ |
I strongly agree with this statement. |
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Kaku
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| 34. Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Spectere wrote: | | A **** isn't a AAA, neither is a ***. The rating systems are not even close to compatible. DDR and ITG are two seperate games, stop trying to compare the grades in them. :/ |
ACTUALLY
You get a AAA in DDR if you get the maximum amount of possible DP in a song.
You get a quad star in ITG if you get the maximum amount of possible DP in a song.
Both of them mean that you won't be able to improve on your score if you play it again.
If you want to incorrectly compare AAA's in different games compare DDR AAA's to IIDX AAA's, where in IIDX you can get 50 misses and still AAA a song. DDR AAAs and ITG quad stars are the closest you'll get to equal gradings since they both mean 100%.
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Blue0ctane
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| 35. Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Da Bar wrote: | | Blue0ctane wrote: | | Actually, Spectere, a quad-star would be an AAA in DDR... |
no it wouldn't. you have to take into account everything else that is different about it. the arrow skins are different. the fact that there's no pane obstructing your view on the bottom of the screen needs to be taken into account. the different speed mods. they aren't comparable in any way. |
When you go over the finer details like that, the two wouldn't be equal, but when you go to bare bones gameplay, an FFC does equal an AAA.
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Dahctt
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| 36. Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| Comparison is pointless. Theyre 2 completely different systems. Either way, a **** is like 20 times harder to achieve than an AAA. There are players who can AAA everything in DDR but cant **** a 10 or 9. |
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| 37. Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I've got several FEC's in ITG, but I have no AAAs except La Copa De La Vida on Extreme 2.
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Ian2K3
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| 38. Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| giuocob wrote: | | I've got several FEC's in ITG, but I have no AAAs except La Copa De La Vida on Extreme 2. |
the arcade i go to is an itg2 machine and it has ddr songs in it DDR 3-8 mix and some songs i still cant FEC some of the 9's
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Lobster Jesus
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| 39. Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, I must be wierd. I actually Find it harder to FEC ITG stuff than to get AAAs in DDR. I only ** PA Theme >_> yet I have about 10 AAAs.
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